GH-148047: Check early whether tail-calling is possible for MSVC builds on Windows by chris-eibl · Pull Request #148036 · python/cpython

chris-eibl · 2026-04-03T13:54:22Z

Rather than failing late when compiling e.g. a debug configuration

build.bat -c debug --tail-call-interp

with hundreds of

error C4737: Unable to perform required tail call. Performance may be degraded.

lets fail early with an explicit error message for configurations that are not supported by MSVC.

This is a follow-up on #140513 / #140548.

Issue: Check early whether tail-calling is possible for MSVC builds on Windows #148047

chris-eibl · 2026-04-03T14:21:44Z

TSan https://github.com/python/cpython/actions/runs/23948631142/job/69850491565?pr=148036 failure for sure unreleated: this is a pure Windows change and would result in a build error on onsupported (Windows) hosts when using --tail-call-interp. Note that there are no such hosts in CI nor in buildbots, and if there were, they would have already failed (but with tons of Unable to perform required tail call messages).

I've checked manually that I get all the expected errors for unsupported configurations.

Fidget-Spinner · 2026-04-03T16:28:30Z

Please open a separate issue for this, rather than reusing the same closed issue. Thanks!

itamaro

Overall looks good, thank you for this!

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zooba · 2026-04-14T14:48:10Z

+    <Error Text="MSVC supports tail-calling only for x64."
+           Condition="$(Platform) != 'x64'" />
+    <Error Text="Platform toolset >= v145 is required for tail-calling."
+           Condition="$(PlatformToolset.Replace('v', '0')) &lt; '145'" />


We can't do this check - PlatformToolset is an arbitrary string, you can't assume that it's comparable to a number in any meaningful way.

zooba · 2026-04-14T14:49:26Z

+    <Error Text="Platform toolset >= v145 is required for tail-calling."
+           Condition="$(PlatformToolset.Replace('v', '0')) &lt; '145'" />
+    <Error Text="MSVC requires optimization to be enabled for tail-calling."
+           Condition="$(Configuration) == 'Debug'" />


Why would we do this? It makes it annoyingly hard to set tail calling enabled in my environment and then choose between debug/release builds.

A warning is fine, if you really want, but a debug build is inherently without optimisations, so there's no reason to remind users that that's what they're getting.

zooba · 2026-04-14T14:52:52Z

+
+  <Target Name="_CheckTailCalling" BeforeTargets="PrepareForBuild" Condition="'$(UseTailCallInterp)' == 'true' and $(PlatformToolset) != 'ClangCL'">
+    <Error Text="MSVC supports tail-calling only for x64."
+           Condition="$(Platform) != 'x64'" />


Not convinced this needs to be an error - if/when MSVC gets support, they may want to test it on CPython themselves before shipping, and we're just going to block them.

As with Debug, make it a warning if you really want, but ultimately it's up to the user to decide whether they're enabling a feature or not. We shouldn't prevent users from doing what they want to do.

Fidget-Spinner · 2026-04-14T15:16:22Z

Really sorry @chris-eibl, but I'm going to revert this change. I think users can just let the compiler fail to build if it's not available.

… for MSVC builds on Windows (python#148036)" This reverts commit cbd81d5.

Fidget-Spinner · 2026-04-14T15:19:18Z

Revert up at #148558

chris-eibl · 2026-04-14T15:39:54Z

Really sorry @chris-eibl, but I'm going to revert this change. I think users can just let the compiler fail to build if it's not available.

No worries, totally fine with me. That's why we have discussions and reviews.

Sorry for the churn.

Fidget-Spinner · 2026-04-14T15:41:53Z

No problem, nothing to apologise for!

…sible for MSVC builds on Windows (#148036)" (#148558) This reverts commit cbd81d5.

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check tail-calling support in pythoncore.vcxproj

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