Pivot and melt

[aljazerzen]

One thing SQL lacks is a idiom of converting:

date	status	transaction
2022-01-01	live	10
2022-01-01	test	20
2022-01-02	live	5
2022-01-02	test	30
2022-01-03	live	25

.. into ..

date	live	test
2022-01-01	10	20
2022-01-02	5	30
2022-01-03	25	null

.. and back.

There is many names for this, let's list them here:

• pandas
  • wide_to_long
  • melt
  • pivot
• MS Excel pivot tables
• dplyr/tidyverse
  • pivot_longer
  • pivot_wider
• polars
  • melt
  • pivot

The problem has some unknowns which are treated differently by the functions above:

• what to do with unused columns?
• what to do with duplicated values?
• how to name the new columns?

Related comment #300 (comment)
Could be implemented as: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/69263964/how-to-pivot-in-postgresql
Would solve: https://old.reddit.com/r/SQL/comments/viumd0/bigquery_how_to_aggregate_data/

Currently I don't have capacity to tackle all these, so I'm just opening a tracking issue.

[max-sixty]

Thanks for starting this!

I would split the feature into:

• Static column names, known at compile time — we could write this in PRQL without too much trouble
• Dynamic column names — this would require much more work where it's not supported by the DB; we'd have to build a query from the result of another query

BQ can do this dynamically now, but only as the last operation of a query: https://towardsdatascience.com/pivot-in-bigquery-4eefde28b3be

dbt can also do this dynamically: https://github.com/dbt-labs/dbt-utils/blob/main/macros/sql/pivot.sql, by issuing two queries.

I really think we could be very good at the first. We have to do the work to think through how to build it, but it can be done with some very simple rust or a templating language (not quite s-strings atm tho!).

Zooming out — while in this instance dbt can do both static & dynamic, its macros are often used for things known statically. And while I love dbt, this is a feature born of necessity rather than desire, and the sort of area we can start improving upon.

[aljazerzen]

Uff, the dbt pivot syntax seems very cumbersome. We can surely improve that.

I very much agree that "dynamic column names" are much harder.

Am I correct in assuming that pivot operation requires dynamic columns, while melt produces only a static columns (independent of table contents)?

This would mean that we can start with melt (wide to long).

[max-sixty]

Am I correct in assuming that pivot operation requires dynamic columns, while melt produces only a static columns (independent of table contents)?

I think:

• With melt, the query needs the columns (because it has to know what rotate), but they are always defined statically — there is no extra information at runtime.
• With pivot, queries can be static, if you know what data to expect / what columns to create. But without knowing what columns to create, it does need to be dynamic

Is that how you're thinking about it?

[snth]

Adding links to our recent discussion on Discord and the DuckDB developments.

Discord discussion: https://discord.com/channels/936728116712316989/945832228011798528/1077845402793017384

DuckDB pivot: duckdb/duckdb#6387

[datamike]

I hope this is applicable to the Pivot discussion. I am new to PRQL and I was thinking, "I wonder if I can get it to do something similar to Pivot() ..."

let header_rows = from_text """
col1,col2
U30,U50
"""

let under_thirty = (
  from employees
    filter age < 30
    aggregate [
        ct30 = count
    ]
)

let under_fifty = (
  from employees
    filter (age | in 30..49)
      aggregate [
        ct50 = count
      ]
)

let aggregate_onerow = (
  from under_thirty 
  join side:full under_fifty []

)

from aggregate_onerow`

This compiled to the following SQL (which is a "poor man's pivot").  I could not do anything with the 'header_rows' variable / CTE. 

`WITH under_thirty AS (
  SELECT
    COUNT(*) AS ct30
  FROM
    employees
  WHERE
    age < 30
),
under_fifty AS (
  SELECT
    COUNT(*) AS ct50
  FROM
    employees
  WHERE
    age BETWEEN 30 AND 49
),
aggregate_onerow AS (
  SELECT
    under_thirty.ct30,
    under_fifty.ct50
  FROM
    under_thirty FULL
    JOIN under_fifty ON true
)
SELECT
  ct30,
  ct50
FROM
  aggregate_onerow

-- Generated by PRQL compiler version:0.8.1

[era127]

Currently, there is native functionality in duckdb sql for Pivot as well.

[max-sixty]

This was discussed at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39717268. We should ensure that this is at least possible with an s-string.

[snth]

https://duckdb.org/2024/09/27/sql-only-extensions

Since it's SQL only this should be useful for us for implementing pivot functionality.

[eitsupi]

By the way, polars stopped using the word melt and now call it unpivot.

[futu2]

In Postgresql, crosstab

[NickCrews]

My preferred naming convention is what ibis uses, pivot_wider() and pivot_longer(). All the other terms I can never remember, eg does pivot make it wider or longer?