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perf(quant): fuse SwiGLU activation and FP8 input quantization - #1679
Added support for FP8 quantization of SwiGLU activations in compatible DeepSeek V4 configurations, with grouped scaling and support for SiLU or GELU activation handling.
DeepGEMM can now process inputs that are already quantized when scale information is available, while retaining the existing path for inputs that need quantization.
FP8 quantization preserves the activation and multiplication rounding behavior before quantizing values.
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DeepSeek V4 now uses fused SwiGLU activation and grouped FP8 quantization for a matching DeepGEMM configuration. The projection method accepts prequantized input with attached scales and uses a caller-provided output tensor.
For the specified DeepGEMM configuration, _ffn_tp passes quantized SwiGLU output and scales to the projection. apply uses scaled input directly and requires an explicit output tensor.
sequenceDiagram
participant FFN as _ffn_tp
participant Kernel as silu_and_mul_quant_fp8
participant Projection as down_proj.mm
participant Apply as DeepGEMM apply
FFN->>Kernel: Quantize activated input
Kernel-->>FFN: Quantized tensor and scales
FFN->>FFN: Attach scales and allocate output
FFN->>Projection: Pass quantized input and output
Projection->>Apply: Apply projection
Apply->>Apply: Use scaled input directly
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Minor · Clamp up to the BF16 limit used by the unfused path. · moe_silu_and_mul.py:25-35
lightllm/common/basemodel/triton_kernel/fused_moe/moe_silu_and_mul.py:25-35 Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Clamp up to the BF16 limit used by the unfused path.
When limit is not exactly representable in BF16, the fused kernel clamps up to the fp32 value of limit. The unfused kernel clamps up to the BF16 value of limit, because up is BF16 and limit is a constexpr. The two paths therefore round the BF16 product differently for some inputs, and the FP8 output can differ.
This applies only when swiglu_limit from the model config is not exactly representable in BF16. The in-tree value 10.0 is exact, so the difference does not occur there.
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if USE_LIMIT:
gate = tl.minimum(gate, limit)
- up = tl.minimum(tl.maximum(up, -limit), limit)+ up_limit = limit.to(input_ptr.dtype.element_ty).to(tl.float32)+ up = tl.minimum(tl.maximum(up, -up_limit), up_limit)
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Update the USE_LIMIT branch in the fused kernel so the bounds used to clamp up
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WANDY666
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perf(quant): 融合 SwiGLU 激活与 FP8 输入量化
perf(quant): fuse SwiGLU activation and FP8 input quantization
Nov 3, 2026
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共享专家的 down projection 原先先生成激活后的 BF16 张量，再读取并量化成 FP8，最后调用 DeepGEMM。本 PR 把激活与输入量化合成一个 kernel，减少一次中间张量读写和独立 kernel launch。
实现
input_tensor.scale = scale携带 scale，随后调用现有MMWeight.mm()；DeepGEMM 读取该属性并跳过重复量化。没有新增 MMWeight 或 QuantizationMethod 公共方法。out，保留原始激活的输出 dtype，避免误按 FP8 输入类型分配输出。临时 gate/up 张量在激活完成后释放。scale_stride_n使用运行时参数，减少随 batch 大小生成的编译版本。最终差分涉及 3 个生产文件，不提交 unit test 文件。
性能与显存
H200，BF16 输入、FP8 block128 UE8M0 权重，N=4096、K=2048。测量完整“激活＋量化＋shared-w2 GEMM”：每个 CUDA Graph capture 10 次调用，每个样本重放 50 次，取 7 个样本中位数，再平均四轮交错测量。
这些是局部微测，不能换算成整模型同幅加速。
相对于本 PR 上一版公共接口实现，当前版本在四种 batch 下的峰值显存完全相同；释放输出后，没有额外存活的 PyTorch GPU 分配。Graph 模式小 batch 耗时差异在 0.3% 内，2048 行本次约慢 0.9%，不能声称严格零退化。
另执行上一版公共接口原函数与当前最小 diff 实现的 eager 对照，以下为 CPU 提交时间中位数：
本轮每次调用增加约 2～3 μs 的 CPU 开销，不能声称完全零退化。该测量包含 Python 调度和 GPU 队列影响，未做完整服务的 TTFT/TPOT 验收。
同一进程覆盖 16、32、64、128、256、2048 行后，融合 kernel 的编译版本从上一版 6 个减少为 1 个；这不意味着任意 dtype、形状和调优配置都能共用一个版本。
验证
27 项 GPU 检查通过，覆盖 FP8 数据与 scale 字节一致、真实 DeepGEMM 输出、clamp/GELU、零与微小值、Graph replay、NoQuant bias、普通/packed scale 回退，以及真实缓存管理器的 Tensor 属性与存储复用。模型调用处使用提取的原方法执行，未启动完整模型服务；未做 SM100 实卡验证。Black、Flake8 和 diff 检查通过，验证脚本与日志单独保存。
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